Saturday, October 20, 2007

I'm happy he's gay

Answering a question posed to her at tonight’s book reading at Carnegie Hall in New York, Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling said she “always thought Dumbledore was gay” and that he originally fell in love with the wizard Grindelwald.

Upon hearing her response, a hush fell over the audience in attendance and then applause exploded. Rowling remarked that if she had known that would be the response, she would’ve revealed her thoughts on Dumbledore earlier.


I was initially taken aback on the reports of JKR “outing” Dumbledore last night while answering questions from fans and readers on her American Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows book tour. I mean, it’s been ten years, lady, and now you tell us Dumbledore is into buttsex? LOL

I can understand why she kept it quiet, though. Americans—who made her rich and famous—are so homophobic in general (more so than a LOT of other advanced cultures) that witchcraft would have been nothing compared to a school headmaster liking men. Not only that but, for some reason, in American literature you can’t just be plain old gay, you also have to like little kids. It goes hand in hand like love and marriage so you can see how that would have fared for poor Dumbledore.

I am sure, without a doubt, 100% positive, that most people will not see Dumbledore the same way anymore. He will go from being a wonderful character, a good and kind man, a magnificent friend, a smart teacher and a funky dresser to being gay; he will now be, to most, Homosexual Dumbledore. I think it was wise of her to keep it quiet until now.


[...] with over 2,000 fans in attendance J.K. answered 16 fan questions in which she revealed the above story as well as Neville’s and Hagrid’s martial status and the job occupations of Harry’s parents.

  • In answering a question about Neville and finding love, Jo said that he married the landlady from the Leaky Cauldron which happened to be Hannah Abbott, and that living above the Leaky Cauldron would have impressed his students at Hogwarts.
  • When asked why she chose Molly to kill Bellatrix she replied that she wanted to 1) show that Molly was an extremely talented witch even though she spent most of her time in the kitchen, and 2) she wanted to compare the obsession Bellatrix had with Voldemort with Molly’s maternal love for her children.
  • The next question referred to what would have occurred if Arthur had died in Order of the Phoenix. Jo said that it would have changed books 5, 6 and 7 and that Ron’s character would have lost his sense of humor and taken away Harry’s refuge at the Weasley home.
  • What was the careers after graduation of James, Lily, Sirius and Lupin? Jo said Lupin was unemployable and impoverished because of his condition and that James, Lily and Sirius were employed full-time in the Order of the Phoenix (James was rich and that’s how they lived).

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30 comment(s):

Blogger Vicious Trollop said...

I'm wondering now if Grindelwald was gay too... Did they have zee cex?

I love that James was really rich and didn't have to do anything. He would have been a great romance hero *g* Handsome, cocky and rich. Also, does that mean that Sirius lived off of Jame's money? 'Cause that's just plain odd and not very sexy LOL

10/20/2007 12:13:00 PM  

Blogger Etchen said...

Ok, I have no problem that Dumbledore was gay, but I would ahve liked for her to have at least put a bit more ab. it in the books rather than "spring" it on us after it is all said and done.

10/20/2007 12:30:00 PM  

Blogger Thomas J. Brown said...

I think it's funny that Americans are so homophobic, considering that Native Americans revered homosexuals.

Full disclosure: I'm a bisexual American.

10/20/2007 02:23:00 PM  

Anonymous Alexa said...

What an unnecessary "revelation" to make: the sexual preferences of the characters. Come on, nothing is mentioned in the book so don't start putting BS labels on characters now. Is this her attempt to try and portray characters that are different?

Writers are writers. If he's gay then write it in, don't do it through some nonesense out there at a Q&A session to cause controversy.

10/20/2007 05:09:00 PM  

Anonymous Di said...

Native Americans revered homosexuals? My history teachers forgot some parts when we did Native Americans in class LOL

On Dumbledore:

It's probably just me, but I wonder if she's going too far with this "after the books" character thing.

This is what I think: if it wasn't in the book, then it WASN't. It's a fictional novel for fuck's sake. Characters don't exist outside books. Not for normal people at least. Laurell K. Hamilton is a whole other story.........

10/20/2007 05:14:00 PM  

Anonymous Iz said...

I agree with Alexa.

I feel duped by Rowlings publishing that book when it was obviously missing important information. Why didn't she write all this in there?

10/20/2007 05:34:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's wrong of her to say that Dumbledore is gay. These books are for children and having a gay Headmaster would not be my choice for my child's school.

I was debating letting my now 8 year old son reading Harry Potter later on but now there is no way I'll be allowing it.

10/20/2007 06:45:00 PM  

Anonymous Mother in love said...

We should sue JKR for Slander LMAO How dare she defame Dumbledore this way? She can't just go around outing characters. Who's next Prof. Sprout?

10/20/2007 06:54:00 PM  

Blogger Harlot and Trollop said...

Anonymous,

I don't see what being gay has to do with being a good teacher, principal or headmaster.

Why do people think that being gay is equal to being perverted, sick, twisted, a pedophile, a rapist and all sorts of other things.

Sure there's probably gay people that fit one of the above (or god forbid all) but I'm sure there's just as many hetero ones that fit it too.

Hate hate hate homophobia.

10/20/2007 06:57:00 PM  

Blogger DumSpiroSpero said...

Anonymous: If that's how you really feel are you sure this is the blog you should be reading? This 50s propaganda video might interest you: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p4enfUyGWSY

Carrie

Was that too mean? It might have been.

10/20/2007 07:42:00 PM  

Anonymous Iz said...

To anonymous: pardon my french but you're an idiot.

My best friend is gay and he's a wonderful man and a wonderful teacher.

How would you feel if it was your loved one or child that turned out to be gay?

10/20/2007 09:36:00 PM  

Blogger mallymoodle said...

You know, while reading HP7 did wonder a few times about Dumbledore and Grindelwald and their plans to go off together and form their new world order. It's good to have my thoughts confirmed!

Gay, straight, animal-lover (*cough cough* Aberforth), as a wizard, teacher or character, I don't respect him any less.

10/21/2007 04:17:00 AM  

Anonymous CrazyBookAholic said...

Why would people not send their children to a school with a gay headmaster?

All you have to do is look at the headlines where there are a LOT of molested children under a school with gay teachers and headmasters. I think they call them priest.

So does that mean they're being homophobes?

Personally, I think it just meant the parent is being smart and making sure they're children in not being molested. Molested children tend to have this TINY thing...they get destroyed, more or less.

10/21/2007 08:11:00 AM  

Blogger Harlot and Trollop said...

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10/21/2007 09:54:00 AM  

Blogger Harlot and Trollop said...

Dear Crazybookaholic, Anonymous and anyone else:

I do think that it is homophobia. I believe, in these cases, that it mostly stems from fear of the unknown which is OK to a point. But maybe educating oneself on things we don't know a lot about or only know from stereotypes and hearsay would be a very very good thing indeed.

You see, pedophilia and hebephilia ARE NOT HOMOSEXUAL CONDUCTS. Neither are they the same thing as child molestation. The majority of pedophiles don't have gender preferences. They like children independently of their sex; they will have sex with a boy or a girl.

“[…]the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.”

“Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).
In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

Science cannot prove a negative. Thus, these studies do not prove that homosexual or bisexual males are no more likely than heterosexual males to molest children. However, each of them failed to prove the alternative hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.”


So you see, it is just as likely that your child’s HETEROSEXUAL teacher/principal/babysitter/headmaster could be molesting him as a homosexual one would and I bet you don’t distrust them just based on their (hetero) sexual preference.

It seems to me a very unfair thing to put everyone in a box like that, don’t you think?

10/21/2007 10:13:00 AM  

Anonymous I have no idea! said...

I don't get how being gay have to equate with anything. So, he's gay.

Do we have to genuflect? Walk on eggshells? Or what?

If being gay is to be treated as the norm, then everyone should stop highlighting their being gay like they're something special.

For someone to be truly accepted, they have to be ordinary. If being gay means someone has to always walk on eggshells, then being gay as a gender is truly doomed.

10/21/2007 11:24:00 AM  

Anonymous Carmen said...

I think that some of these posts explain the reason why J.K Rowling didn't want to mention his sexual preference in the books. She would have more than just religious groups on her a**. She'd have homophobos (sp) on her case too. I just wished people that didn't agree with something would just let things be. Especially something like this. WHO CARES!!! Not everyone is the same. Live and Let Live.

10/21/2007 08:14:00 PM  

Blogger Aradia said...

Are we talking about HP and Rowling’s ramblings? I agree with Di, if it’s not in the book, it doesn’t matter. Why does it matter what Lily and James and Sirius used to do when they were alive or if Dumbledore is gay?
We all can imagine whatever we want about them. It doesn’t change the story, these are all sidelines. Rowling can say Sirius was gay for all I care, and it won’t lessen my love for him (I just Lurrrrrrrrrv him!) In my imagination he is my hero (mine! All mine!).
Dumbledore sexual preference doesn’t change the fact that he was a great teacher and headmaster.
I think Rowling is milking her books way too much! (I don’t like this woman but love the books!)
On Homophobia: I second iz. And it will be a great joke if some homophobe’s child turns out to be gay!
Personally I don’t understand why someone sexual orientation should affect his/hers job or social standings. A whole lot of sexual assaults and crimes are done by straight guys but people worry if their child has a gay teacher? Some people should examine their priorities better!!!

10/21/2007 08:19:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree about it being in the books but she can always put out a companion and stick it in there, I think alot of why she never said anything in the books was because did anyone really care if he was gay or straight?

10/21/2007 08:39:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Homosexuality is not a natural conduct.

I don't care what any study says I would fight tooth and nail with a school board that asigned a gay principal or teacher to my son's school.

This has ruined the whole series for me. I will be donating it to the library.

10/21/2007 10:29:00 PM  

Blogger Vicious Trollop said...

Aradia, I never thought she would do something like this (JKR). What is she after? Surely not money, she's richer than god.

I'm reading Celebrity Detox by RO and she might be right on fame being an adiction. I don't see any other answer.

I wish she would have written a lot of this into the books. I hated the Epilogue.

The Dumbledore thing I get why she left out, but a lot of the other stuff would have made the book so much better for me *sniff*

10/21/2007 10:36:00 PM  

Blogger Vicious Trollop said...

Last Anon (I'm guessing you're the first anon too?),

Good luck trying to ruin someone's life over some stupid prejudice/stereotype.

Good thing that's both illegal and inconstitutional.

10/21/2007 10:37:00 PM  

Blogger Aradia said...

Dear Anon,
Your loss! You are depriving your family and yourself from a wonderful story with lots of moral points because of prejudice.
Well, you can keep it up! Did you know a lot of famous artists and architects are homosexual? Also a great many authors? For your information Elijah Wood (Frodo in Lord of the Rings) is gay too. You better shun that movie too! And if you avoid meeting gays you are going to miss knowing a lot of wonderful people.
What you will end up, my dear; will be a life like a tiny empty box with no window and no view. Have fun with that!

10/22/2007 02:40:00 AM  

Blogger Aradia said...

Dear Trollop,
I know! Why is she doing it is beyond me. If she is not ready to be done with the series, she can write a new book HP8. God knows, people would love it! Why she keeps stretching the story and tormenting the readers?
I am thinking Harlot has a point: JKR is a very sick woman and likes to torture her readers!
Congrats on your new job, BTW! Wishing you lots of great ideas and professional achievements.

10/22/2007 02:52:00 AM  

Anonymous Gay Librarian said...

I have to admit I never thought about Dumbledore's sexuality at all. I just figured he was asexual like me, seeing as I haven't had sex in months LMAO.

Anonymous and the rest of the homophobes on this post should be shot on grounds of stupidity. There's nothing worst than stupid people.

10/22/2007 10:24:00 AM  

Anonymous karamia said...

How about stupid people that try to pass it on to their children? That is much worse than just being stupid.
My son't teacher is gay, and we love him. He certainly does not brodcast it, but I know some of his friends. We could not be happier with him and I would go toe to toe with any parent that tried to remove him from our school. His sexual orientation DOES NOT MATTER. And neither does Dumbledore's. Who cares if he's gay? I always wondered why he never married, so I guess this answers it. But why ever address this if you could not put it in the book? She does seem to be trying to stay in the headlines.

Aradia- get in line, Sirius is mine! There is no way he lived off James. He must have had his own money, when he got out of prison, he bought Harry a new broomstick. and I am sure they are not cheap!

10/22/2007 12:30:00 PM  

Blogger Vicious Trollop said...

I think I had a bigger crush on Sirius than I've had on a lot of romance heros.

He is the character I cried most for in the whole series; by a LOT.

I loved him *sniff*

Anywho, why don't we play, "this is my blog and I get Sirius"? *g* I've always liked that game LOL

10/22/2007 05:38:00 PM  

Blogger Petra said...

What's up with JKR and all this VERY LATE revelations?

A gay Dumbledore is not the issue if you ask me. Dumbledore will ALWAYS be the brilliant wizard, friend, teacher and the best headmaster Hogwarts ever had no matter what his sexual preference is or what those homophobic idiots say. It's Jo with all her "little revelations" that is wrong.

Why couldn't she put all that in the frigging books????

10/23/2007 12:18:00 PM  

Anonymous karamia said...

I don't actually think she completely "outed" him. Didn't she just say that she always saw him as gay? I think an author has to have a full idea of who her characters are to write them. But they don't always include all of the details in a story. She has full back stories on other characters like Dean Thomas as well. And I actually have always wondered about Dumbledore's love life. JR was just answering a question honestly perhaps.
You Vicious Trollop! Sirius is mine I tell you, all mine. I have had a crush on him and was soooo upset when he died. I, too, like him better than almost any romance hero.

10/23/2007 03:09:00 PM  

Blogger Harlot said...

Oh, the stupid homophobes.

I don't see why Dumbledore being gay makes any difference anyway. What's irritating is JKR's way of not including info/stories she SHOULD have included in the fucking books! She's deliberately withholding info from readers SO SHE CAN PUT THEM IN HER BLEEDING ENCYCLOPEDIA, that evil evil witch! :@

10/24/2007 12:58:00 AM